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What we know about CNN host Chris Cuomo's 'shocking' conversation with Michael Cohen that Tucker Carlson plans to reveal Fox News host Tucker Carlson told his audience on Friday that next week he intends to share details of a conversation that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen secretly tape-recorded with CNN's Chris Cuomo. This tape is one of many that have been "floating around" for some time but have never aired publicly, Carlson said before noting with a chortle that Cuomo, who is the brother of New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, was captured on at least one of them. "Cohen and the governor’s brother had a pretty shocking conversation. Bottom line, Chris Cuomo is not the person he pretends to be on CNN. And there is more. This is a developing story. We'll have all of it for you next week. Tune in," Carlson said as video played of Cuomo lifting weights at a gym. Although the tape has yet to leak publicly, Cuomo was pressed to talk about it in the summer of 2018 after the FBI seized materials from Cohen, who later that year pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud, bank fraud, and campaign finance violations for hush-money payments to two women during the 2016 campaign who claimed to have had affairs with President Trump. Trump has denied those relationships. On July 24, Cuomo played on his show, Cuomo Prime Time, a recorded conversation between Trump and Cohen about buying the rights to former Playboy model Karen McDougal's story about her alleged affair with Trump. The Wall Street Journal reported a day later that federal investigators obtained 12 tapes belonging to Cohen, including a conversation with Cuomo that was nearly two-hours long. The report narrowly focused on how Cohen talked about arranging a $130,000 payment to porn star Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about the affair she claims to have had with Trump in 2006. “I did it on my own,” Cohen said in regard to the payment. Rudy Giuliani, who became Trump's personal attorney during the Russia investigation, appeared on Cuomo's show a couple of days later, praising the host for how he conducted himself during his chat with Cohen. The former New York City mayor said he could make the judgment because he read the transcript. "You did exactly the right thing. In fact, Chris, thank you for doing it because you questioned him the way a lawyer would question him, and you got everything out of him," Giuliani said. "I couldn't have done a better job of getting him to corroborate my client's statement than you did. And he did it three or four times." Cuomo said he wouldn't talk about it, insisting he remained bound by an off-the-record agreement. "I can't talk about it," he said. Giuliani argued that Cuomo was released from the off-the-record agreement because of Cohen's actions. "He put it on the record by taping the darn thing surreptitiously, by lying to you," Giuliani said. Still, Cuomo refused, insisting it was a matter of journalistic integrity. "Because somebody else does the wrong thing doesn't mean I'm going to do the same thing," he said. Kellyanne Conway, who last week announced her resignation, participated in a 32-minute interview with Cuomo the following month in which they discussed the tapes. While Cuomo pressed Conway to talk about Stormy Daniels, she pushed him to address the two-hour tape that captured his talk with Cohen. "Tons of stuff," he said at one point. Cuomo then explained why he would not talk about the tape publicly. "He asked me not to record it, I said, 'I won't,'" Cuomo said. "He said, 'Just to be careful, let me have your phone,' I said, 'Here.' He then said, 'We'll take our phones. I'll put them away.' He did. He then recorded me on a secondary device." Asked how he felt about it, Cuomo said Cohen's actions were "dishonest" and "a bad thing to do." Cuomo claimed he has nothing to worry about on the tape but then suggested there is a reason why Conway and the Trump team would want it disclosed. "You know what we talked about in the conversation? I'm not going to tell you, you know why? Because it was off-the-record, and I respect that, even though he did me wrong. That's called integrity," Cuomo said. "What do you do when people aren't watching? I'm still not going to burn him even though he did something wrong," Cuomo added. "He can answer that for himself. I'll tell you what, there's nothing on it that I'm worried about. I know why you guys want to leak it but — hold on a second, this isn't about me. You tried, you failed. He's on that tape, on there with Michael Cohen, and he's lying about not knowing before these payments, and you should admit it," he added, referring to the taped conversation between Cohen and Trump. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-chris-cuomo-michael-cohen-tucker-carlson-reveal //Clip//
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